In episode 217, Dan and Michael chat with friend of the pod Judy Pace about her new TRSE article titled, “Deliberative dialogues with preservice teachers in Bosnia-Herzegovina and South Africa using a gradient of controversy approach.”

Transcript 

Books, Articles, and Other Amazing Resources

1. Pace, J. L. (2025). Deliberative dialogues with preservice teachers in Bosnia-Herzegovina and South Africa using a gradient of controversy approach. Theory & Research in Social Education, 1-30.
2. Episode 165: Hard Questions: Learning to Teach Controversial Issues with Judy Pace
3. Episode 123: Contained Risk-Taking When Teaching Controversial Issues with Judy Pace
4. Here is an article on the San Francisco mural controversy Dr. Pace discussed: “When murals depict traumatic history, schools must decide what stays on the wall” by Jon Kalish, NPR, October 14, 2022
5. More on Rhodes Must Fall from Wikipedia
6. More on the  Structured Academic Controversy (SAC) approach from  Street Law, Inc.  
7. Judy’s website: https://teachingcontroversies.com/
8. Judy’s book: Hard Questions: Learning to Teach Controversial Issues

Biography

Dr. Judith L. Pace is an emerita professor in the School of Education at the University of San Francisco. She uses project-based learning, case studies, and elements of practice-based teaching in courses such as Learning and Teaching, Curriculum Currents and Controversies, Curriculum Development and Design, and Teaching Controversies. Dr.  Pace does qualitative research on classroom teaching and its sociocultural, political, and institutional dynamics. Past research projects have focused on classroom authority relationships and academic engagement, unequal learning opportunities across U.S. government classes, and social studies under high stakes accountability. Her 2016-2018 project examined how teacher educators prepared preservice teachers for teaching controversial issues. Dr. Pace was a Fulbright Global Scholar in 2023-2024, teaching and conducting research in teacher education courses in Bosnia-Herzegovina and South Africa to learn about contextualizing approaches to teaching controversial issues in difficult post-conflict settings. Professor Pace earned her doctorate of education from Harvard University where she worked on school reform efforts at Project Zero. See full biography at the University of San Francisco site. You can email her at pace@usfca.edu.

Funding

Dr. Pace’s teaching and research was supported by the Fulbright U.S. Scholars Program.